<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2523" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bottomMargin=7 leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 rightMargin=7><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 11/4/2004 7:17:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, carlremick@hotmail.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Maybe this time the voters chose what they actually want: Nationalism, <BR>pre-emptive war, order not justice, "safety" through torture, backlash <BR>against women and gays, a gulf between haves and have-nots, government <BR>largesse for their churches and a my-way-or-the-highway President.<BR><BR>Where, I wonder, does that leave us?<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>I think Katha hits the nail on the proverbial head.  If the DP could not win this time, with this candidate, and with this support, then there is no way they can win by moving to the left.  I just don't see any hope of making any gains in the conservative mindset of this country.  We are a minority, an extremely small and inconsequential.  The only reason Clinton won was the Perot took votes away from the Repugs and then he ran against Dole whose campaign was basically, Its my turn, dammit!</DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>