<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=content-type content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2523" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bottomMargin=0 leftMargin=3 topMargin=0 rightMargin=3> <DIV>andie nachgeborenen wrote:</DIV> <DIV>> Get out of your secular ghetto, fella. If there is an<BR>> organized left in this country, it's religious.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Yes, there are many, many religious groups (often Christian) that are part of the American left today.  Certainly, one front against these evangelical/born agains be, and has been, covered by moderate Christians.  But is that the predominate divide here, secular left vs. religious left?  Isn't there a substantive divide between the coastal and bordering Canada left, and those of us in red America?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Asking to the list in general, because I don't know for certain: how much of the voice of the national left comes from coastal or Canadian boarder regions?  How much from fly-over states, from reliably red states?  It seems to me that those in the former can take a lot more as given, and they are often in a stronger position politically, which hampers the debate over what to do about Kansas and the like.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-- Shane</DIV> <DIV> </DIV></BODY></HTML>