[lbo-talk] Twockers Terrorize Cheese Eating SurrenderMonkeys at Higher Rates than Yanquis! Extree! Extree!

snitsnat snitilicious at tampabay.rr.com
Fri Apr 22 00:28:12 PDT 2005



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>That's why it says "stranger OR unknown" ... :-)

But you're wrong to lump them together. The number comes from leaving out unknown becaue they are unknown. If they knew for sure they were strangers, they'd say so.


>As the numbers I posted showed, "unknown" is the largest group by far:
>6,015 out of 14,054 ... so yes, they do include them, because they are
>the most significant group.

But you can't know whether they are strangers or not. So it's wrong to lump them in with strangers. A criminologist certainly doesn't. Plus, they do break down murder by circumstances of the murder, so they can draw some conclusions about what the unknown category might look like. It simply doesn't follow that, be/c it's unknown, it must be a, as you said, drug-related murder!

Here, btw, are the numbers that break it down into drug/gang/gambling/prostitution related murders, so you're still wrong to say that aquaintance murders are mostly made up of drug related murders. You don't know that and you can only go by the data, below. You can try to weasel by pointing at "other" and "unknown" as to circumstances by aquaintance murder, but you're still making too many unwarranted assumptions. Though, of course, I'm sure the murder rate is higher b/c of drug laws, not denying that.

Circumstances: Acquaintance

Felony type total: 3217

Rape 11

Robbery 221

Burglary 21

Larceny-theft 2

Motor vehicle theft 1

Arson 9

Prostitution and 3

commercialized vice

Other sex offenses 3

Narcotic drug laws 245

Gambling 2

Other - not specified 68

Suspected felony type

Other than felony type total:

Romantic triangle 57

Child killed by babysitter 23

Brawl due to influence 68

of alcohol

Brawl due to influence 36

of narcotics

Argument over money or

property 104

Other arguments 1154

Gangland killings 23

Juvenile gang killings 21

Institutional killings 9

Sniper attack

Other - not specified 446

Unknown



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