[lbo-talk] Heidegger and Ratzinger....oh freude, freude

Chris Doss lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com
Fri Apr 22 06:16:15 PDT 2005


What's your point? Catholics are inherently suspicious?Theologians are bad (H did NOT get his start doing Catholic theology by the way)? Heidegger gets buried in a Catholic Church, JP2 quotes Heidegger, Heidegger was in the Nazi party, Ratzinger and Heidegger are both German, chairs and cats both have four legs so there must be no difference between chairs and cats?

--- Mike Ballard <swillsqueal at yahoo.com.au> wrote:


>
> Heidegger began his career as a Catholic theologian.
> At the end of his
> life, he said that he had never left the Catholic
> Church and was given
> a Catholic burial. He was also a due paying Nazi
> Party member from the
> early 1930s until the end of WWII in 1945. After
> 1945, hardly anyone
> called themselves a Nazi.
>
> When Wojtyla was invited to lead spiritual exercises
> before Pope Paul
> VI at a Lenten retreat, his first three references
> were to the Bible,
> St. Augustine and German philosopher Martin
> Heidegger.
>
> As B posted, founder of Opus Dei was canonised in
> 2002. From that
> article:
>
> Escriva's ultra-conservative movement, which
> recruited
> many of its members from Spain's wealthy and
> powerful
> families, flourished under Franco and eventually
> provided ministers to his governments.
>
> Opus Dei's 84,000 members around the world deny he
> actively supported Franco - though Escriva went into
> hiding to avoid anti-clerical factions in Republican
> Spain when the civil war broke out in 1936.
>
> Opus Dei's representative in the Vatican, Flavio
> Capucci, claimed this week that Escriva should not
> be
> criticised for his silence on the Franco regime's
> abuses or for letting Opus members join the
> dictator's
> governments.
>
> "Neither the political nor religious authorities of
> the time criticised Franco," he said. "One of the
> characteristics of Opus Dei is that it allows its
> members freedom."
>
> But former members have complained that Opus Dei,
> whose extreme members expiate sins by committing
> self-flagellation, exercises a cult-like control
> over
> followers.
> ****************************
>
> I think there are more than a few connections
> between fascistic
> intellectual leaders of the faith like Heidegger and
> Ratzinger. Common
> to both of these men is a desire to turn the
> historical clock backwards
> to sometime before the Enlightenment.
>
>
> Regards,
> Mike B)
>
>
>
>
>
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