[lbo-talk] Wall Street

Steven Gotzler Steve at Gotzler.org
Thu Apr 28 15:34:22 PDT 2005


Does this mean that all those traders who get the big bonuses and then spend them by bidding up NYC area real estate prices will be gone? Or is it that there really aren't that many of them that will be effected.

What's it mean for the city is what I am getting at.

Steve

----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Henwood" <dhenwood at panix.com> To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Wall Street


> C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>
>>How about an explanation of what's going on with NYSE/Archipelago/Goldman
>>Sachs, Doug? --CGE
>
> I confess I haven't been following it that closely, but the fundamental
> issue is the obsolescence of the NYSE trading structure. Now, much of the
> order flow through the exchange goes through "specialists," who are
> brokers who make markets in specific stocks. They keep the books on orders
> to buy and sell. Being a specialist has been a license to print money; not
> only do they make money on the trade, they get a very good sense of what
> the market looks like, and can trade accordingly. Most human-centered
> trading systems have been replaced with purely computerized trading, which
> match buyers and sellers without human intervention. The NYSE is one of
> the last remaining outposts of the old order. Specialists and floor
> traders add a layer of complexity and expense that's not needed. (In
> practice, the NYSE works pretty well; it kept trading during the 1987
> crash when all the screen-based systems seized up.) So the question is,
> what next? The NYSE wanted to do a merger with Archipelago, an electronic
> trading system, and then do an IPO and become a public company - and
> Goldman was giving advice to just about everyone involved. (The NYSE boss,
> John Thain, is a former Goldman exec, too.) This provoked a rebellion from
> other WS hotshots, who also want a piece of the action. BIllionaire
> investor Kenneth Langone, a co-founder of Home Depot, launched a rival
> bid, and has some Wall Street bigwigs on his side. So now there's a big
> fight over what happens next. In any case, it's likely there's going to be
> some vacant space on the corner of Broad & Wall; it could all be replaced
> with a server farm in the Caymans.
>
> Doug
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