[lbo-talk] Re: Basaev

Chris Doss lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com
Fri Aug 5 14:40:56 PDT 2005


--- Luke Weiger <lweiger at umich.edu> wrote:


>
> Obviously, the Ukrainians must be suckers for
> Goebbels' propaganda.
>
> Lance is unbelievably looney.
>
> -- Luke
>

Speaking of Ukraine and loonyness, I noticed during the (essentially failed, apparently) "Orange revolution" lots of rhetoric in the Anglophone press about the supposedly historically brotherly relations between Ukraine and Poland. In fact, killing Poles is what Ukraine was founded on. Note this 17th-century Ukrainian folksong:

SONG OF VICTORY–1648 When the Cossacks under Khmelnitzky expelled the Poles from the Ukraine

HAI, all ye good people! list what I tell ye,

What's done in Ukraina's plain– There under Dashiev, across the Soroka,

What numbers of Poles now lie slain.

Hai, Perebiynees! But seven hundred

Cossacks he asked for that day. Then he with sabres smote the Poles' heads off–

The rest swept the river away.

Drink ye swamp water, Oi! all ye Poles now–

Quench thirst at each rain-pond ye see. . . . And once ye were drinking, in our Ukraina,

Wine and sweet mead flowing free!

Each Polish "Pan" is lost now in wonder;

"What do these brave Cossacks eat? Verily, look ye, they live just on pike-flesh,

Solamàkha 28 with water their meat."

Look now, ye Poles, whom our Hetman Khmelnitzky

Fought on the grim "Yellow Sands," Of all your army fighting young Cossacks

Not one has escaped from our hands.

See, Pole! A Cossack is dancing, is dancing

Upon a grey horse after thee! When he stands with his musket thy heart sinks in anguish

In great fear of death thou dost flee.

We own the whole land e'en as far as Sluch river,

Kostiana! As far as thy Hill– O rude and uncourteous! Poles caused our revolting

So mourn they their lost Ukraine still.

As a thunder-cloud brooding on Vistula's river

The Poles lie, expelled from Ukraine. As long as we live they shall no more leave Poland,

They shall not come nigh us again.

Hai! All ye young Cossacks! Leap up now with shouting–

Akimbo our arms let us place. We threw all the Poles across Vistula's waters–

And here they won't dare show their face!

http://digital.library.upenn.edu/women/livesay/ukraina/ukraina.html#23

Nu, zayats, pogodi!

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