[lbo-talk] Fwd: [anti-allawi-group] The Chomsky vs. Dershowitz debate: both sides were awful!

joanna 123hop at comcast.net
Mon Dec 5 10:18:35 PST 2005


And then consider that in this case "ancestral" means 50 years. So the Zionist jews deserve their two thousand year old ancestral home; but the Palestinians do not deserve theirs.

Joanna

Chris Doss wrote:


>Just to be a stickler, the Crimean Tatars were finally
>allowd to return in the 1990s (but a lot have gone to
>Turkey).
>
>Personally I think the idea of people "deserving an
>ancestral homeland" sounds kind of volkish.
>
>--- Michael Hirsch <mmh655 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Joanna:
>>
>>What exactly do you support? The ideal of a unitary
>>secular state or the
>>reality of a Middle Eastern peace? If I thought for
>>a moment that a secular
>>bi-or multi-national state were possible in
>>Palestine, I'd jettison any
>>support for a two-state solution. It cannot happen.
>>Not in our lifetimes.
>>The author's airy talk about KKK politics is gallery
>>rhetoric and beside the
>>point. Populations are routinely routed in wars.
>>It's lousy; it must stop.
>> And it's the outcome of military conflict, which
>>must stop. Want to make
>>any peace settlement contingent on the right of
>>return? Want to resettle the
>>Sudeten Germans, too? How about the pro-fascist
>>Crimean Tatars. Or is it
>>just the uprooted and oppressed Palestinians who
>>deserve an ancestral
>>homeland? Chomsky hasn't become a Zionist cats paw
>>and it's a dumb,
>>self-congratulatory if not self-referential argument
>>to say he has. So I ask
>>again, what's to agree with?
>>
>>Mike Hirsch
>>
>>
>>
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