-- Liza
> From: "Nathan Newman" <nathanne at nathannewman.org>
> Reply-To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 16:40:35 -0500
> To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org>
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Marc Cooper's flipping out over Churchill
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck0" <chuck at mutualaid.org>
>
>
> Nathan Newman wrote:
>> The problem is that you see no hatefulness in telling families that they
>> have no right to justice because their dead loves ones -- many of them
>> working class, many lower-level administrativestaff - were
>> "imperialists."
>> This indifference to suffering of those families by that sector of the
>> left
>> was what alientated lot of people from the antiwar movement.
>
> -Nathan, can you back up your claim that any of this has "alienated"
> -people from the anti-war movement? I suspect that you have no evidence,
> -because your arguments are the same old liberal attempt to control the
> -free speech of radicals.
>
> How about the pathetic number of people at antiwar marches in New York City
> for the two years that ANSWER was leading the rallies. As soon as groups
> like United for Peace & Justice took over organizing them, they ballooned
> to hundreds of thousands of marchers. The contrast was dramatic. So those
> are the numbers. My experience -- and remember I was going to almost every
> antiwar march in NYC from 911 on as a legal observer -- was that large
> chunks of my left friends and family were refusing to go to the marches
> because they so hated the rhetoric and flyers being distributed. These
> were folks who had marched in all sorts of left and antiwar marches in the
> past but didn't want to go near them during 2001 and 2002.
>
> -- Nathan Newman
>
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