[lbo-talk] Terrain of Struggle was O'Reilly vs Churchill

[amadeus amadeus]

XXVIII:
But I remained to look at the crowd, and I saw a thing
that I should be afraid, without more proof, only to
tell, were it not that conscience reassures me, the
good companion that emboldens man under the hauberk of
feeling himself pure. I saw in truth, and still I
seent to see it, a trunk without a head going along
even as the others of the dismal flock were going. And
it was holding the cut-off head by its hair, dangling
in hand like a lantern. And it gazed on us, and said,
"O me!" Of itself it was making for itself a lamp; and
they were two in one, and one in two. How it can be He
knows who so ordains. When it was right at the foot of
the bridge, it lifted its arm high with the whole
head, in order to approach its words to us, which
were, "Now see the dire punishment, thou that,
breathing, goest seeing the dead: see thou if any
other is great as this! And that thou mayest carry
news of me, know that I am Bertran de Born,[1] he that
gave to the young king the ill encouragements. I made
father and son rebellious to each other. Ahithophel
did not more with Absalom and with David by his wicked
goadings. Because I divided persons so united, I bear
my brain, alas! divided from its source which is in
this trunk. Thus retaliation is observed in me.

[1] The famous troubadour who incited the young Prince
Henry to rebellion against his father, Henry II. of
England. The prince died in 1183. 

--- Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:


> > donkey dung. we don't understand provacateurs.
> thus, putting them in the
> > same textual space as .....n, ..g, etc. isn't
> about understanding
> 
> Kelley, how much prior agreement do you need with
> others for it to be
> worthwhile to engage in debate with them?
> 
> One of my criteria is that I will not debate with
> anyone who ascribes
> motives to others in the debate. Those subject to
> that fatal error
> divide roughly into two groups. One of the groups
> (the majority) only
> commit this error some of the time; other times they
> respond to
> arguments rather than people.
> 
> Others simply do not know how to carry on a
> discussion without analyzing
> the motives of their opponents. These people belong
> in the category of
> those who are companions of Bertran de Born. I don't
> have time just now
> to look up which Canto of Dante's de Born occupies.
> 
> Carrol
> 
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