[lbo-talk] Who Set People Up for Disappointment and Demoralization?

Yoshie Furuhashi furuhashi.1 at osu.edu
Sat Feb 26 07:58:45 PST 2005



>At 10:10 AM 2/26/2005, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
>
>>You see, it generally takes far more groundwork to get people to oppose a
>>Democratic Administration than a Republican Administration, but reluctant
>>Kerry supporters like Ali and Doug, lacking in resources, were not in a
>>position to lay such groundwork before election day. Besides, they were
>>busier pummeling Nader and his supporters than Kerry or even George W.
> >Bush. :-0
>
>:)
>
>I've a feeling that, were we to count up posts, the number of posts
>pummeling Nader supporters/Nader would be quite a bit less than the
>number of posts pummeling Doug and others for not supporting Nader.
>:o
>
>kelley

I very much doubt that's the case. A big majority of LBO-talk posters took exactly the same position as Doug. Who spoke in favor of the Nader candidacy and/or in opposition to the idea that we shouldn't challenge Kerry electorally from the left lest we elect Bush? A tiny handful -- yours truly, Carrol, Chuck0 (who unsubbed long before election day and didn't come back until the elections are over), Lance (who posts here only infrequently), Shane Mage (whose idiosyncratic voice entertained me a great deal).

The only left-wing political currents that gave organizational support to the Nader candidacy were the International Socialist Organization and Solidarity.

I know that at least a couple of people from the ISO lurk or look into the LBO-talk archive, but they didn't post on the elections here, probably thinking that speaking about inadvisability of supporting the Democratic Party on LBO-talk is a lost cause. Perhaps, silently observing ISO members are correct in their assessment.

Will LBO-talk subscribers be once again arguing that we shouldn't challenge a Democratic Party presidential candidate electorally from the left, no matter how wretched the Democrat may be, lest we help elect a Republican in 2008? The only effect of that has been and will be, though, to help move the Democratic Party and its candidates further to the right and then lose to Republicans. You can't blame that problem on the Christian Right or anything else. It's US leftists' own political choice, and those who make that choice have to live with that. -- Yoshie

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