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> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 12:17 PM
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> Subject: [lbo-talk] Re: Stop Flogging the Dead Donkey etc.
>
> Dear List:
>
> Wojtek writes:
>
> > So if anyone is serious about reforming this country,
> the place to start is re-gaining the sovereignty of individual
> states and reducing the federal entity to a handful of
> agencies charged mainly with economic and scientific data
> collection. Anything that brings us closer to that goal should
> be high on the agenda of those who place themselves left of
> the center.
>
> As much as it pains me to agree with Andrew Sullivan (with
> the concomitant loss of queer points) I believe Wojtek may be
> right. Looking at the number of progressives in this country
> versus the size of the country, it may be impossible to achieve
> radical change across the breadth of the nation.
>
> I have posted before how I think it advisable for queers to
> concentrate themselves in selected areas to maximize their
> power, and I am begining to believe that the same thing may
> be true for progressives.
>
> Up until this point I have been a reflexive anti-states' rights-ist,
> but I am wondering if there is not some advantages to states'
> rights for progressives. For example: Chuck0 says he manages
> a website that has 150,000 members. I would ask: where are
> they? Spread all over the place or concentrated in certain areas?
>
> Also, the internet has put a great many like-minded people in
> touch with each other, but are the bonds that arise from these
> connections, ones which will help bring about social change over
> a vast geographic area.
>
> If progressives are going to win, they must start having successes
> that demonstrate that their approach to government/politics
> produces communities that are liveable/sustainable which others
> will wish to imitate/replicate.
>
> > An interesting twist is that many right wingers will also support
> that goal - which makes it look like a real possibility.
>
> I am not sure that this is as interesting as it is horrifying.
>
> Brian Dauth
> Queer Buddhist Resiter
>
>
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