----- Original Message ----- From: Dwayne Monroe To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: [lbo-talk] Panix.net
Doug:
In my experience, Panix is run by really competent and dedicated people; I wouldn't be surprised if they dream in Unix. So if this hijacking can happen to them, something is deeply screwed up in the way domain names registration is run.
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Exactly right and this incident is waking more of the technorati up to the deep, structural snafus of the domain naming system which have only recently come to my attention (I think we all sort of knew anyway but hoped for the best).
I smelled something foul in the air yesterday when things went dark from lbotalk - a lookup produced bizarre results and of course, emails were bounced.
The thieves (probably not the folks listed in the altered whois record which is no doubt a mis-direct - unless they've very, very stupid) have surely picked the wrong people to mess with. The collective, unfriendly attention of more than a few of Panix's quite savvy customers will eventually be turned in their direction.
Possibly the only worse move, from an enjoying the spoils of your ill gotten gain perspective, would be hijacking 2600 or Cryptome.
.d.
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L
Interesting, I saw the UK connection in WhoIs and immediately thought of IndyMedia. Maybe the Feds don't need to physically remove the server anymore. [heh] (they just send a malignant spider out into the 'net to find every dns with the occurrence of panix.com and scramble the dns's database selectively.)
But I'm no computer whiz...
Domain Name.......... panix.com
Creation Date........ 1991-04-22
Registration Date.... 2005-01-15
Expiry Date.......... 2006-04-23
Organisation Name.... vanessa Miranda
Organisation Address. 1010 Grand Cerritos Ave
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Las Vegas
Organisation Address. 89123
Organisation Address. NV
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES
Admin Name........... na vanessa Miranda
Admin Address........ 1010 Grand Cerritos Ave
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ Las Vegas
Admin Address........ 89123
Admin Address........ NV
Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
Admin Email.......... jzoh at yahoo.com
Admin Phone.......... +44.702413697
Admin Fax............ +44.7026413697
Tech Name............ Domain Admin
Tech Address......... Burnhill Business Centre
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Beckenham
Tech Address......... BR3 3LA
Tech Address......... Kent
Tech Address......... GREAT BRITAIN (UK)
Tech Email........... admin at powerhost.co.uk
Tech Phone........... +44.2082496081
Tech Fax............. +44.2082496076
Name Server.......... ns1.ukdnsservers.co.uk
Name Server.......... ns2.ukdnsservers.co.uk ============
BTW, 1010 Grand Cerritos Ave does appear to exist: http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?ed=9UHTS.p_0TpiyNcv2_qqw1KUMC00RtmLmayZxRonz8g-&csz=Las+Vegas+nevada&country=us&cat=&trf=0
...But I doubt if there's anyone there worth speaking with.
"You Hide... They Seek." --Thomas Pynchon, Proverbs for Paranoids
L
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