[lbo-talk] cushy life/strict equality

Carl Remick carlremick at hotmail.com
Wed Jan 26 12:51:03 PST 2005


My point is that you'd have to have a hell of a lot of socialistically pampered layabouts to equal the social cost and waste represented by mega-middleman Stewart Rahr (the wholesale drug profiteer mentioned below) and his entrepreneurial ilk. I agree with John Thornton that it's nuts to think people in a guaranteed-income society are going to sit around on their asses all day, squinting at the sun, just because they *can.* I'd get damned bored doing that and lose all sense of self-respect -- wouldn't you? And frankly if a few people do just sit drinking beer all day it wouldn't both me at all. Drunks on a park bench aren't as offensive to me as the eyesores so typically created by the rich, e.g.:

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January 26, 2005

So What's in a Big, Bright Name on the Skyline? For City, $10 Million

By SAM ROBERTS

Carl C. Icahn, the philosophy major turned corporate raider, investor and philanthropist, is New York's latest man of letters.

Five letters, to be precise, costing him $2 million apiece.

To the surprise of some East Side residents and passing drivers on the Franklin D. Roosevelt Drive, the name Icahn is now spelled out in eight-foot-high, stainless-steel type atop a new track and field stadium on Randalls Island.

And just in case any potential donors, spectators or athletes missed the name "Icahn Stadium" since it was installed on the grandstand roof last fall, concerns about inconspicuousness dissipated last month when the sign was illuminated by white light-emitting diodes.

The stand-alone letters read backward from the adjacent Triborough Bridge elevated roadway that leads to and from Queens, where Mr. Icahn was born. But they are plainly legible from Manhattan, which was precisely the point. ...

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/26/nyregion/26stadium.html>

Carl


>From: andie nachgeborenen <andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
>To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
>Subject: RE: [lbo-talk] cushy life/strict equality
>Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:29:19 -0800 (PST)
>
>
>Stick to the point. We agree that capitalist
>parasitism has to go. That doesn't mean that we should
>or would tolerate socialist parasitism -- or plain
>shirking and goofing off. It's as irrelevant to my
>point to say that it's bad that people should become
>rich by speculation or exploitation of labor. I
>agree. My point. however, is that even if we get rid
>of that sort of parasitism, we would encourage another
>sort of parasitism if we delinked contribution from
>reward, making it a matter of indifference to anyone
>whether they bothered to work. I flat out don't think
>that it answers this problem to say that people would
>just want to do their best out of a spirit of
>camaraderie and socialist solidarity. Some would.
>And they would resent the hell out the goof-offs --
>even if they were only, say 10% of the population --
>who didn't. It;s hard to believe that people who don't
>get this point have ever worked in a real job or lived
>in a family. This is a constant issue. Back to my
>billables now. I do it for the dough.
>
>--- Carl Remick <carlremick at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >From: andie nachgeborenen
> > <andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com>
> > >
> > >... Well, I'm a Calvinist workaholic, a character
> > type of
> > >which you disapprove. But we know that free rider
> > >problems are real and pervasive. Why do you persist
> > in
> > >think that if you turn everything into a public
> > good
> > >that we don't have public goods problems?
> >
> > [I know how busy you Calvinist workaholics are,
> > counsellor, so I won't waste
> > more of your billable time than necessary. I will
> > simply note that the
> > party below is *my* idea of a free-rider. If this
> > guy profiteering from
> > other people's misery isn't a social parasite I
> > don't know who would
> > qualify.]
> >
> > Making a Fortune by Wagering That Drug Prices Tend
> > to Rise
> >
> > By STEPHANIE SAUL
> > Published: January 26, 2005
> >
> > Stewart Rahr's new $45 million East Hampton estate,
> > the most expensive house
> > ever purchased in New York State,
>
>
>
>
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