probably so, but they definitely are considered by many who know about apes, to be the most intelligent and even thoughtful of our relatives...
read somewhere that an orang had not only figured out how to use a key to get into a room holding some goodies, but was said to even replace the key ( though not to relock the door) when it was done eating...
beats the shit out of many of your average, irresponsible middle class brats...
hereafter, we should put people down by saying they're dumb as dogs, or cats, or parakeets...
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