uvj :
It is for _Iraqis_ to decide how quickly the US withdraws. If _Iraqis_ want the immediate US withdrawal it's fine with me.
^^^^^ CB: The channels for us finding out what Iraqis want are not reliable. However, no, I wouldn't say that I, as an American, do not have a say in what the U.S. does. The history of the U.S. military interventions around the world is such that I judge that the U.S. must get out of Iraq immediately.
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>Looking at the larger effects and picture, I believe immediate U.S./British
>withdrawal will save the most lives even there in West Asia.>
We can't decide for Iraqis.
^^^^ CB: We Americans have some say in deciding for Americans, who are the ones doing the war on Iraq.
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I wrote that_Iraqis_ may want _some transitional arrangements_ to preserve peace and stability. Transitional arrangements don't necessarily imply longer US presence.
^^^^ CB: Well, yea. Transitional arrangements _without_ the U.S. involved. Send some Swiss Guards to Iraq.
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It could mean the UN led force consisting of troops from Indonesia, Bangladesh etc., provided _Iraqis_ want that kind of force. We can't decide how Iraq is to be liberated.
Ulhas
^^^^ CB: "We" can decide it won't be U.S. troops who are involved.