> I'm a big Ali fan as well, but as Nick Tosches suggests, and I now tend to
> agree with, Liston threw both fights, esp the second one. Ali didn't have
> the punching power to take out a man of Liston's size and strength that
> fast, not to mention that Liston was felled by a "phantom punch." Add
> Liston's involvement with the boxing underworld, and . . .
I'm waiting for Chip B. and Joe W. to "weigh in" on this.
Chris