[lbo-talk] Shot dead in London

Joseph Wanzala jwanzala at hotmail.com
Wed Jul 27 12:03:09 PDT 2005


ok, then what about the fact that they first allowed him to board a bus and then only set upon him when he was about to board a train - assuming that the concern about trains and buses as terrorist targets is equal, how would explain this anomaly - why did they not stop him from boarding the bus?


>From: "Jordan Hayes" <jmhayes at j-o-r-d-a-n.com>
>Reply-To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
>To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org>
>Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Shot dead in London
>Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 10:47:56 -0700
>
>Joseph writes:
>
> > If a coroner saw a corpse shot seven times in the head at
> > close range, she would assume that the shooter was extremely
> > angry and emotionally involved, and that this was a crime of
> > passion.
>
>Unless of course, the coroner knew what happened instead. I'm sure
>you're missing quite a bit of information:
>
>- Most cops don't get enough training, especially with weapons
>- Most cops never shoot their weapons under stress
>- Many cops (and non-cops!), when they first fire a weapon under stress
>report all kinds of psychological symptoms:
>
> + They don't remember what happened
> + They don't remember how many times they fired, or where
> + They typically underestimate how many shots were fired
> + They quite often don't stop shooting (you find a lot of cops
> with empty guns after a shooting)
> + They are often in shock and deaf
>
>It's not at all surprising that the initial count was wrong.
>
> > The overkill is inconsistent with a professional shooter
>
>No, unfortunately it's completely consistent with a high-stress
>law-enforcement shooting. As to what a "professional shooter" is, I'll
>leave that one up to someone else. Very few law enforcement positions
>require the kind of training required to be called a "professional
>shooter" ...
>
>James writes:
>
> > How putting eight shots, all but one of them into the head,
> > at point blank range can be called an 'accident' is beyond me.
>
>Don't be coy: the 'accident' in this case, of course, was the decision
>made that this guy was a true threat. Once that decision was made, of
>course the result was no accident.
>
>/jordan
>
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