[lbo-talk] Re: WBAI scores with holocaust denalist's premium

Michael Pugliese michael.098762001 at gmail.com
Sun Jul 31 14:12:06 PDT 2005


(cont.) (John Judge is a staffer for Rep. Cynthia McKinney . Judge wrote a long paper I've read alleging the CIA had a hit squad that really killed the 900+ victims of Jim Jones in Jonestown. LP: McKinney reopens 9/11:Conspiracy theories implicating ... ... it was a rush to exoneration," said John Judge, a member of McKinney's staff ... See Cynthia's website - http://www.house.gov/mckinney/ - for an online ... www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=102790&Disp=12&Trace=on - 25k - Cached - Similar pages

Cynthia McKinney http://www.house.gov/mckinney/. The most courageous Member of Congress, ... Activists like our hosts here today, Kyle Hence, John Judge, and Nicholas Levis; ... www.oilempire.us/cynthiamckinney.html )

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/PAandAAF77.html

The Pentagon Attack and American Airlines Flight 77 by John Judge

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/notAllCequal.html

Not all conspiracies are created equal by John Judge

www.freedom-force.org/freedomcontent.cfm?fuseaction=burningquestions&refpage=issues

BURNING QUESTIONS What Really Happened at the Pentagon on 9/11?

some of the photos "proving" a small hole (and therefore no plane) at the Pentagon were digitally altered

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jpdesm/pentagon/english.html

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ppfinal.html

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2004/08-23-2004/facts.htm

"In the information society, bad information drives out good information. The proliferation of misinformation causes the dilution of good, factual information. Valuable information on actual cover-ups, for instance, is discredited when other alleged, but non-factual and misleading, conspiracy theories are given undue currency. In short, bad conspiracy theories discredit all assertions of conspiracy, making for fertile ground in which actual conspiracies thrive."

Sites that don't think there was official complicity

(the false choice between "no plane at Pentagon" and "Bush is innocent")

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html Photos of Boeing debris in the rubble

http://paulboutin.weblogger.com/2002/03/14 "Hunt the Boeing" Answers

LA Citizens Grand Jury, Rense, Nov. 2, 2004. LA Citizens Grand Jury Treasonous Cabal For 911

COURSE OUTLINE

Part I 9/11

Feb. 8-10 The Pentagon Optical Illusion

Film: In Plane Sight

This film is a hoax, a dirty trick to discredit the 9/11 truth movement. Really, it is an embarrassment.

"In Plane Site" movie by the "Power Hour"

This film, released a few months before the 2004 Presidential Election, is a conglomeration of most of the red herrings surrounding the 9/11 truth movement. Nearly every piece of "evidence" in it is wrong, even if the conclusion ("inside job") is correct. "Plane Site" includes hoaxes, misinterpreted evidence, logical leaps unsupported by evidence, and some footage that is almost certainly completely fraudulent. The video clips that can be proven to be authentic are merely those plagiarized from other films, such as the WTC 7 collapse, the firefighter sequence, and the footage from Oklahoma City.

In Plane Site only promotes the "Letsroll911" website (the loudest promoter of the "pod" claim), which means that "In Plane Site" is probably a "Webfairy" production (the video operation that made "new" videos of 9/11 years after the fact).

Perhaps the most revealing aspect of this fake film is that the cover graphic shows the same photo of a Boeing 757 that was posted to the "911truthalliance" list in May 2004 pointing out that the "pod" was merely an illusion. In other words, the manufacturers of "Plane Site" put a photo showing the "pod" is a fake claim on the cover of the DVD -- a bad joke "hidden in plain sight."

http://www.oilempire.us/inplanesite.html

"911: In Plane Site" - a bad joke hidden "in plain sight"

http://www.darkprints.net/planesitereview.html

"911 - In Plane Site: A Critical Review" by Jeremy Baker

http://www.digitalstylecreations.com/Download/

Video debunking of several "planesite" claims by 9/11 Visibility Project member

http://www.questionsquestions.net/blog/041116walter.html

16 November 2004: Jimmy Walter, a sugar daddy with poison pills

(millionaire promoter of "In Plane Site" at reopen911.org)

http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg115085.html

Dave Von Kleist, lost in foam

http://www.awitness.org/journal/september_11_norad_standdown.html

perhaps this spreading of such nonsense around is part of some psyop by some intelligence agency in the government the purpose of which is to create people just like me who are reacting with growing disgust and deep mistrust and suspicion to each and every new 9-11 conspiracy type story that comes out, having been burned so many times before, and thus this psyop can work to undermine any 9-11 investigation

http://www.heraldextra.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=33961

http://www.portlandmercury.com/2004-10-14/film_shorts.html

9/11: In Plane Site should have been a fun, Fox Mulder-y conspiracy diatribe--it features both an exceedingly annoying crackpot theorist and outlandish, unsubstantiated allegations about blurrily pixelized photos that don't really show anything. But there's something still very raw and powerful about the imagery from 9/11 that Plane Site so gleefully throws around in its half-assed allegations that 9/11 was a staged event, and the role that the film ultimately fills is that of the cheapest, most unintelligent form of cashing-in on the day it so poorly tries to redefine.

April 12-14 The War on Iraq

Reading: Mark Weber, IHR.org,

ihr.org = Institute for Historical Review -- a nazi website

Are you trying to discredit us by promoting such nonsense???

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oilempire.us

http://www.oilempire.us

stolen elections * 9/11 * fascism

World War IV * media manipulation * Peak Oil

http://www.oilempire.us/stolenelection2004.html - "Vote Fraud in Ohio"

Understanding 9/11 -- http://www.oilempire.us/understanding.html

9/11 Parable and best web sites -- http://www.oilempire.us/911.html

9/11 Dictionary -- http://www.oilempire.us/dictionary.html

9/11 wargames that paralyzed the military response -- http://www.oilempire.us/wargames.html

Bush, "My Pet Goat" and the 9/11 stand down http://www.oilempire.us/standdown.html

The archeology of evidence http://www.oilempire.us/911intro.html

Permaculture, Peak Oil & 9/11 -- http://www.oilempire.us/oilempire.html

9/11 was not a "failure" of intelligence http://www.oilempire.us/limited.html

Famous skeptics who don't believe the official story http://www.oilempire.us/skeptics.html

The American Reichstag Fire http://www.oilempire.us/reichstag-fire.html

WHY 9/11 was allowed is more important than HOW - http://www.oilempire.us/911why.html

Peak Oil is the real connection between Iraq and 9/11

http://www.oilempire.us/peakoil.html and http://www.oilempire.us/fascism.html

Media manipulation and alternative sources of information -- http://www.oilempire.us/media.html

Left / liberal gatekeepers who promote Bush propaganda that 9/11 was a surprise attack: the politics, the psychology, the practice, the personnel http://www.oilempire.us/gatekeepers.html

Flight 77 hit the Pentagon in the nearly empty, recently reconstructed and strengthened sector, which minimized casualties -- evidence for remote control technology? http://www.oilempire.us/pentagon.html http://www.oilempire.us/remote.html

Worst 9/11 Web Sites (science fiction speculations and disinformation that distracts from best evidence) http://www.oilempire.us/bogus.html

Books and movies about 9/11, Peak Oil, fascism

http://www.oilempire.us/books.html and http://www.oilempire.us/movies.html

Operation Iraqi Liberation (OIL) http://www.oilempire.us/iraq.html http://www.oilempire.us/iraqoil.html

Is Saudi Arabia next? http://www.oilempire.us/saudi.html http://www.oilempire.us/saudioil.html

JFK, MLK, RFK, Wellstone: http://www.oilempire.us/coup.html

Phony electronic ballot machines http://www.oilempire.us/ballot.html (we need paper ballots counted by hand)

Skull and Bones death cult -- http://www.oilempire.us/skullbones.html

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"I want to thank a dedicated and meticulous 9/11 researcher named Mark Robinowitz for giving me an analogy about bank robbers [and 9/11]"

mention of the "9/11 parable" article, on p. 590 of Michael Ruppert's book "Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil."

"Compelling work by 9/11 investigator Mark Robinowitz adding more knowledge to how the pieces fit together."

-- recommended link "for reason and reliable information" at Ruppert's From the Wilderness publications http://www.fromthewilderness.com

"Oil Empire is among the best current political websites. 9/11 has been examined by hundreds of writers, some of them quite excellent and others more limited -- but there are still other 9/11 sites whose illogic and rhetorical chicanery suggests disinformation. Oil Empire is by far the best resource for discriminating among the various 9/11 sites, seeking the genuine and avoiding the bogus. The mechanics of 9/11 are important. But the crime remains an isolated incident unless it's framed in a larger narrative of world affairs. This is the great strength of Mark Robinowitz's website.

-- Jamey Hecht, Assistant Managing Editor, From the Wilderness

"The information and analysis on oilempire.us is excellent. As an activist for 9/11 Truth, I've reviewed many websites, and find oilempire.us clear, succinct, well researched, and internally consistent."

-- Emanuel Sferios, Webmaster, 9/11 Visibility Project, http://www.septembereleventh.org

"Your sixth sense for 9/11 disinfo is intuitive and deadly accurate. It's as necessary as original research."

-- Sander hicks, writer and publisher http://www.sanderhicks.com

"I usually considered websites like this the work of extremist left wing wackos. But your site is different. You don't post every piece of conspiracy theory information that some guy in his mom's basement can make up. You string together facts and fill in the blank spots with believable theories and sound ideas. And you refute the ideas that don't make sense."

-- comments received from an enlisted serviceman about to be deployed to Iraq

She responded:

Dear Mark,

Thanks for writing. I rather think the "Holocaust" denial sites have a

great deal of credibility since the "Holocaust" was the greatest hoax of

all.

Jane

WOW!

I wrote Professor Christensen myself:

Professor Christensen,

My name is Kevin Flaherty. I am the editor of cryptogon.com.

I am seeking confirmation of comments that you allegedly made to researcher Mark Robinowitz.

Did you write the following comments to Robinowitz (full email, including headers, is below)?

>Dear Mark,

>Thanks for writing. I rather think the "Holocaust" denial sites have a

>great deal of credibility since the "Holocaust" was the greatest

>hoax of all.

>Jane

Thank you,

Kevin Flaherty

Her response:

I am not accountable to you, Mr. Flaherty.Jane Christensen

Needless to say, I need to be more vigilant when mentioning alleged 9/11 "truth" researchers. This area of inquiry has more lunatics, plants, cranks and freaks associated with it than the UFO community.

posted by Kevin at 4:05 PM



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