[lbo-talk] Re: theism, atheism and dont give a fuckism

Peter Lavelle untimely_thoughts at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 1 14:34:53 PDT 2005


You may be right Chris - but Trotsky also coined the term Stalinism - a term that diminishes the nightmare of Lenin's misunderstanding of modernity.

And it was Stalin who coined the term Marxist-Leninism. Marx was a great thinker - Lenin wasn't. He was a thug with power.

Trotsky probably would been worse - an intellectual thug without power and hateful of those who had power. Trotsky would have been just as cruel as Stalin in power, if not worse.

Thus, considering your love for Stalin and the Soviet Union found on his list, Stalin saved the Russian people from an even worse fate.......?????


>
> Incidentally, I am becoming convinced that Trotsky's
> most enduring legacy is getting English-speaking
> leftist cults to speak in bad literal translations
> of
> Russian phrases. E.g. "Soviet power," as in "Soviet
> power having been established, proletarian freedom
> reigned throughout the land" or whatever. This is a
> literal translation of "Sovetskaya vlast'." "Vlast'"
> means either "power" or "government," depending upon
> the context, but almost always means the latter.
> "Sovet" means "council" or "advice." Translating
> "Sovetskaya vlast'" as "Soviet power" is lame. What
> it
> really means is "government of councils."
>
> Ditto this "Hands Off So-and-So!" stuff. It's a
> literal translation of "Ruki Proch' ot So-and-So!",
> which is a common Russian expression, as in the
> recent
> protests against educational reform in Latvia, when
> thousands of schoolkids were holding signs saying
> "Ruki Proch' ot Russkikh Shkol!", "Hand Off Russian
> Schools!" Maybe it's only me, but I think it sounds
> really silly in English. Trotskyists have no
> originality whatsoever.
>
> Nu, zayats, pogodi!
>
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