>[But how can this be squared away with the popular
>preference for political leaders like Arnold
>Schwarzenegger, Jesse "the Body" Ventura, "gruff" guys
>like Cheney and Rumsfeld, and Flight Suit/ranch hand
>Dubya?]
Because it's some sort of collective fantasy denial of what's really happening? Lots of the "macho" guys you list are cartoon versions of Real Men.
Doug