[lbo-talk] Straw in the wind: Republican base dividing on Iraq

Leigh Meyers leighcmeyers at yahoo.com
Sat Jun 18 13:13:17 PDT 2005


On Saturday, June 18, 2005 11:55 AM [PDT], Michael Pugliese <michael.098762001 at gmail.com> wrote:


> Is the best job you can get in Santa Cruz still a $10 an hr. gig at
> that plant near the Wrigley's factory making silicon chips where you
> have to suit up like in the core of a nuclear power plant, working
> from grave yard shift? The other shifts pay less.
> Listening to you makes me into a orthodox M-L gotta build up the
> forces of production guy. What E.P. Thompson called after he split
> from the CPGB, "The Socialism of the Heavy Industrial Base."
> But, just keep on with your hippie, utopian socialism where we will
> all make beads and crafts. I know Trotskyists that work in electricity
> power generating plants. Your type will have us all walking on
> tradmills for power generation. Or harnessing the pedal power of mice
>

Are you looking for a job?

You can make 12 an hour cleaning the 6 story parking garage at UCSC where "elfland" used to be. They like to hire alumni to do that. Benefits... vacation, medical, useless union local.

Listen. Intel, Seagate, and Silicon Systems are LONG GONE. And they were paying $12 an hour in 1987, while I was making $8 as full service flunky cum manager of an auto parts store.

Those industries were only here because, at the time, they needed extra manufacturing capacity. And anyone with any sense avoided them like the plague, unless you wanted to start looking for new work as soon as the layoffs came... and they came quite often.

Wrigley's and Lipton are gone too, they were different... more locally oriented. Most of their laid of employees never found other jobs in the same pay range.

Lessee... I've worked as a OTR truck driver(and trainer), machinist(precision & precision inspection), managed an auto part store(including sales/phones/ordering AR/AP/Reports... all in the course of a day.), Cook, Dishwasher... Telemarketer, surveyed corporate executives (did the statistical # crunching & focus group coordination too) construction laborer, more...

...lots more...

When I do a resume, I need to create an industry specific section as well as a chronological list.

My work history is like a swiss army knife, and I'm proud of it.

You know trotskyists(anyone have an icepick?) that work in power plants.

I'm sooo impressed. That's niice... But what do *you* do?

(Since you played the "labor card".)

But feel free to be more M-L than I.

InRe:


> Mike has been in, "The Movement, " since he was in Cornell Univ.
> SDS. See the photo of him with Bruce Dancis, burning his draft card in
> Doug Dowd's, "Blues For America."
> Santa Cruz leftism is largely that reactionary, "New Age, ", small
> is beautiful, "petty-bourgeois, " utopianism that prefers gestures of,
> "The Great Refusal, " to quote Marcuse, to anything that might
> actually build up powerful institutions to contest the State and
> Capital.

This is California... Californians don't gesture.

We "image".

It's what you *act* like, not what you *are* like that matters in these parts.

There is no "great refusal" happening here. It just *looks* like it.

In reality, Santa Cruz is quite the "belly of the beast", and as redneck as any "red" state in it's own socially engineered fascistically adorable way.

"...not everything, but such particular things as business, politics, exploitation, poverty." --Herbert Marcuse

Politics too. (perhaps first)

Leigh Meyers leighcmeyers at yahoo.com

Overposted!

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