But the policy is barbaric, thuggish, ugly, reactionary, illiberal, un-American, uncivilized, illiberal, cruel, and indecent. For starters.
Ifg we want to persuade ordinary people of this, we should get them to see the policy this way rather than call them names.
jks
--- Bill Bartlett <billbartlett at dodo.com.au> wrote:
> At 12:05 PM -0700 21/6/05, andie nachgeborenen
> wrote:
>
> >We can't make them deny it because the powers that
> be
> >control the dominant culture and the media and we
> >don't. We have to sound semi-reasonable. That is
> why
> >it is counterproductive as well as probably untrue
> to
> >call mere supporters of Gitmo fascists.
>
> How about "barbarians" then?
>
>
http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Detainee-Hicks-at-breaking-point-lawyer/2005/06/22/1119321790050.html
>
> Detainee Hicks at breaking point: lawyer
> Melbourne Age June 22, 2005 - 8:06PM
>
> Australian terror suspect David Hicks was
> despairing and at breaking point, his civilian
> lawyer said on Wednesday.
>
> Adelaide-based lawyer David McLeod has spent the
> past five days meeting with Hicks at Guantanamo
> Bay, Cuba.
>
> Hicks, 29, has been detained by the US at
> Guantanamo Bay since January 2002, following his
> capture among Taliban forces in Afghanistan a
> month earlier.
>
> Hicks, from Adelaide, has denied charges of
> conspiracy, attempted murder and aiding the enemy
> but a date for his US military commission trial
> remains unknown.
>
> Mr McLeod said Hicks was despairing.
>
> "David is not well," Mr McLeod told ABC radio.
>
> "Unfortunately, he is exhibiting all the signs of
> being in prolonged detention in the most
> primitive conditions.
>
> "He has got a bad back, his eyesight is failing -
> and you would expect that from a person who has
> been in solitary confinement for 16 months, eight
> months of which were without sunlight.
>
> "He's locked up for 23 hours a day in a steel cage.
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>
> "He is despairing, he has a sense of hopelessness."
>
> Mr McLeod said Hicks had "pretty much" given up
> hope of being tried in Australia.
>
> "Anybody else would be at breaking point, how
> David has managed to hold himself together in the
> face of this situation really beggars belief," Mr
> McLeod said.
>
> "He is in a situation that would break most
> people, and I think he's really reaching that
> point now."
>
> Mr McLeod described Hicks' initial place of
> detention inside Guantanamo Bay, called Camp
> X-Ray, as "an absolute and utter disgrace".
>
> "Where he is being held now, in Camp Delta, is not
> much better," he said.
>
> Mr McLeod was due to return to Australia on
> Thursday.
>
> © 2005 AAP
>
>
>
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