[lbo-talk] Alex Cockburn's poverty wages

Celi Ben cpthron at hotmail.com
Mon Jun 27 21:04:35 PDT 2005



>Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:15:55 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Thomas Seay <entheogens at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [lbo-talk] Excellent ANTI-CAPITALIST March in Palo Alto Last
> Saturday
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>Last Saturday I participated in an excellent
>anti-capitalist demonstration in downtown Palo Alto.
>There were 300-400 demonstrators and, to counter this
>small group, there were between 50-60 riot police, 20
>mounted police and a helicopter overhead. I usually
>think some people overstate the issue of a "police
>state" but downtown Palo Alto looked as if it were
>under martial law. I dont usually see riot police
>brandishing rifles as in this case. The demonstartion
>was organized by a group called Anarchist Action,
>though I think few of the marchers were actually
>anarchist.
>
>Here are some pics:
>http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/06/1749518.php
>
>Having a demonstration in such a small place had some
>interesting consequences. One, there was more

Neat. I avoided it, but the disguised guy who got the television lead is with the school of optometry. he also made the Discover the N etwork list that D. Horowitz runs, but some undergraduate is putting up files for people he doesn't like citing things like "attends the same temple as Michael Lerner of tikkun' as the only offense. He is just a programmer who is good at speaking. But something like this will influence people a lot more than 10X as many at an answer march. Sacramento had a similar overload of police a year ago during their WTO meeting, and they were really harrassing young people, but there were a few good forums and events.

On Monday, June 27, 2005 12:21 PM [PDT], C. G. Estabrook <galliher at uiuc.edu> wrote:


>A nasty (and uniformed) little piece that unintentionally
>reflects rather well on Cockburn. --CGE
>
>---- Original message ----
>>...
>><http://mediacrity.blogspot.com/2005/06/poverty-on-moonbat-row-sniff-sniff.html>
>>
>>THURSDAY, JUNE 23, 2005
>>Poverty on Moonbat Row (sniff sniff)
>>
>>Just $15,900 in 2003? Oh no!


>As someone who gets ribbed for my lotech, nocar alternative lifestyle.

$14,400 is what it takes, -+, albeit I live in a rather expensive area of the U.S.


>Leigh

Same - I've been making that for a long time, but will go up this year a lot. I really really lucked out in housing here - everyone here has an expensive converted garage w/o a kitchen for rent, not to mention the price of a house. A wealthy guy had a weekend house with guest rooms.. he has unusually moderate tastes outside of housing and was pricing below market. I did encounter some 22 yr old students trying to make bids on $600,000 condos, and I keep wondering what the hell everyone does for a living. What is the link for that applet that shows the percentile ranks for wages and wealth. You're in the top 18% with a bachelor's degree, and so many people are under $20,000- actually especially so in California. But if you walk through a drug or department store, there are lots of household items that are so cheap due to exchange rate, compared to 12 years ago - little suitcases for $25, blenders for $10, cheapest bikes at $75, cheap toys and clothes. But rent and healthcare more than makes up for this, plus even though food supposedly is a much smaller percentage of a typical budget than 50 yrs ago, how come basic fruit like oranges and pears cost more than chicken, and if you are able to drive around the region to Grocery outlet and different markets, you can get food for 1/2 the price of Safeway... and 5 lbs of oranges are the same as the blender. Cars and gas are nearly the same everywhere. c

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