[lbo-talk] the Green Nazi platform

joanna bujes jbujes at covad.net
Thu Mar 24 09:33:26 PST 2005


Oh, I though it was Malthus...

Joanna

amadeus amadeus wrote:


>particularly disturbing that the sierra club has a
>whole wing dedicated to "population" issues. preserve
>our pristine motherland. it's of note, as discussed in
>_Food First_ by Lappe, that is was the Rockefellers
>who first expounded on the notion of "overpopulation".
>--adx
>--- Kevin Robert Dean <qualiall at adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Yep...
>>
>>Not to disparage environmentalists all together but
>>there seems to be underlying things that aren't
>>quite fascist, but close---usually under the guise
>>of "overpopulation" complaints (will they boycott
>>their friend's baby shower? Doubt it. But they
>>like the abstract notion that if dumb poor folks
>>stop fucking, then all will be well)
>>
>>Then there is the nationalist feeling that those
>>dang dirty 'developing' nations are rootin' tootin'
>>pollutin'...
>>
>>
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>>---- amadeus amadeus <amadeus482000 at yahoo.com>
>>wrote:
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>>>What's perhaps most disturbing is that this seems
>>>
>>>
>>to
>>
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>>>come as a shock, which hopefully isn't an
>>>
>>>
>>indication
>>
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>>>about what the "green" left is prone to. About 6
>>>
>>>
>>years
>>
>>
>>>or so there was a piece about this in Z Magazine
>>>
>>>
>>that
>>
>>
>>>was kind of brilliant, if I remember it correctly:
>>>You're told to imagine a utopian society where
>>>everyone respects the land, etc., and you start to
>>>feel all warm and fuzzy. Then you're informed that
>>>everything you've just read was part of the
>>>
>>>
>>programme
>>
>>
>>>of the NSDAP. It mentions that the national
>>>
>>>
>>socialists
>>
>>
>>>in Germany were the first, among other things, to
>>>
>>>
>>set
>>
>>
>>>aside forest preserves. I think this serves as a
>>>reminder that any movement or party can be prone
>>>
>>>
>>to
>>
>>
>>>fascism, even Greens. And it's kind of what makes
>>>
>>>
>>me
>>
>>
>>>balk when people cluck incoherently about Bush
>>>
>>>
>>being
>>
>>
>>>the new Hitler, etc., etc.
>>>--adx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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