[lbo-talk] the Green Nazi platform

Andy F andyf274 at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 24 10:29:11 PST 2005


--- amadeus amadeus <amadeus482000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> particularly disturbing that the sierra club has a
> whole wing dedicated to "population" issues.
> preserve
> our pristine motherland. it's of note, as discussed
> in
> _Food First_ by Lappe, that is was the Rockefellers
> who first expounded on the notion of
> "overpopulation".

I've rarely heard green arguments about overpopulation in reference to the US in particular. What's particularly Nazi about the notion of human overpopulation? Mostly I hear it in terms of wealthier humans being a bigger environment burden.

--somebody else wrote:
> > Not to disparage environmentalists all together
> but
> > there seems to be underlying things that aren't
> > quite fascist, but close---usually under the guise
> > of "overpopulation" complaints (will they boycott
> > their friend's baby shower? Doubt it. But they
> > like the abstract notion that if dumb poor folks
> > stop fucking, then all will be well)

Which "they" are you talking about?


> > Then there is the nationalist feeling that those
> > dang dirty 'developing' nations are rootin'
> tootin'
> > pollutin'...

Actually that's a common and spurious argument against Kyoto.

I'll grant there's a utopian streak in some green writings (unlike anything lefty), but the whole "Hitler was a vegetarian and Nazis liked forests" thing is lame, at least as a comment on greens. You might as well suggest that VW lovers have a eugenicist streak.

I bet Hitler loved his mother. Surely *you* don't love your mother *too*??

Andy

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