It's not often I agree with Frank, but I do here. It's absurd to think that killing Schiavo's body -- her brain and mind are long gone -- even a step on the slippery slope towards the extermination of the disabled, which I think is overblown rhetoric in the first place. From all the evidence I have heard,s he's not disabled. She's not severely retarded or brain-damaged. She's not there. It's a complete waste of political energy to fight on the same side as Tom DeLay and Jeb and W. Bush -- hardly friends of the disabled, unlike their Dad, btw, on this issue. If successful, it would involve a complete waste of scarce resources that could be used to help people who are ill or indeed disabled. And I for one am going tio check my living will to make sure that if I am ever in Schiavo's situation it is understood that I want them to pull the plug. jks
--- frank scott <frank at marin.cc.ca.us> wrote:
> there are heartless people who would dump-kill all
> beings with what they
> considered costly disabilities, but i don't hear
> anything remotely like
> that here, and charges made that liken people to
> such creatures are
> based on emotion and very little reason...
>
> this woman in the headlines stopped being a
> functioning person many
> years ago and is kept alive by selfishness and
> idolatry...the fact that
> we can have tubes stuck in our brains or our bellies
> and enable the
> damaged who say they "love' us to sit and watch us
> vegetate for hours,
> days, weeks and years is far more a sign of personal
> and social
> degeneracy than the notion, mostly a product of
> love, to stop the
> charade and turn off the fucking machines...
>
> likening a person who is disabled but mobile,
> thinking, acting in the
> world, to a person who is truly among the living
> dead ( not just in
> consciousness, but physically as well) is a
> sickness...
>
> and before i am consigned to the nazi heap, and
> while i get a bit tired
> of personal, anecdotal stuff to "prove" ones
> worthiness in any political
> or philosophic discussion, while i am not yet
> seriously disabled, i
> have worked for many years with disabled
> students...most of them are
> simply learning disabled, but I've worked with
> countless people over the
> years who were seriously, cripplingly, mentally and
> physically disabled,
> but could function - sometimes jusrt barely - in the
> world , enough to
> actually go to school, take a bus, ride in a car,
> hold a conversation,
> if by machine or sign language , even hold a
> job...while some of them
> were so disturbed and physically damaged that there
> were times i had to
> leave the room and go off and break down because i
> could not cope with
> the thought of what they had to face just to get
> out of bed or go take
> a dump, none of them were lying on a friggin bed
> with tubes in their
> nose, in their stomachs and up their asses while
> people were staring at
> them, petting them, stroking them, and in essence ,
> stroking their own
> fucking crippled egos by refraining from having them
> dead and stuffed as
> trophies...
>
> please don't compare this poor woman kept alive
> only by frankenstein
> money makers who collect checks as long as she
> doesn't decompose before
> their eyes,with someone who is able to go out in the
> world, think,
> create and have conscious relationships in an active
> and not just
> passive way...
>
> once again, were lucky there is no god...if it were
> up to me, i'd have
> slipped a pill into her tube and put her to sleep,
> and i'd want my wife,
> or anyone else around if and when i became a living
> corpse, to do the
> same for me...
>
> seig heil? fuck off...
>
> fs
>
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