Actually, even if 9/11 was carried out by people from oppressed and despised racial and national groups ( socalled brown people) , that event does _not_ demonstrate that people from oppressed and despised races and groups can bring the U.S. government and its economy to its knees. Because the U.S. gov and econ are not on their knees as a result of 9/11. So, 9/11 doesn't demonstrate that, whoever did it.
I'd be glad to have a tete-a-tete with anyone who wants to claim that I am a racist against "brown" people because I think that.
The oppressor/oppressed nation, racism issue related to 9/11 is not in the competence of the perpetrators, but in the U.S.-centered, neo-colonialist, global system oppressing and exploiting lots of "brown" people ;and the likelihood that 9/11 is in response to this U.S. imperialism.
I happen to think that it is uncertain , for most of us, whether or not the U.S.A spook institutions had some pre-9/11 knowledge and allowed it to happen. Whether or not, there was some twisted, U.S.- spook involvement, does not lessen the racism of the larger U.S. imperialist policies , nor does it remove the fact that U.S. imperialism caused 9/11 in the general sense described above.
Charles BROWNperson
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by the same token, Chuck to borrow your own words, "brown people can be organized and intelligent enough to bring the U.S. government and its economy to its knees....that doesn't mean that they planned 9/11." (either)
Joe W.
>From: chuck at mutualaid.org <http://mailman.lbo-
>
>
> > In case you haven't noticed, the US government has subsequently launched
> > full-scale invasions of two countries, and if anything the most
> > reactionary
> > forces in the country were politically strengthened by the attack. At
>last
> > count there were about 3,000 people "vulnerable" to "a small conspiracy
> > armed with weapons, a good plan, and plenty of zeal." Whether the US
> > GOVERNMENT was vulnerable to such a conspiracy is an undecided question
>--
> > at best.
>
>I'm SO SORRY that I believe that brown people can be organized and
>intelligent enough to bring the U.S. government and its economy to its
>knees. I have no time for leftist fantasies about an omniscient U.S.
>government that watches radicals every minute of the day and planned the
>9/11 attacks to boot. Sure the U.S. state used 9/11 to launch wars and
>more repression--that doesn't mean that they planned 9/11.
>
> > But then again, you like Ward Churchill. And you also think that the US
> > government is "vulnerable" to a tiny attempt at conspiracy armed with
> > smelly
> > streetcorner infoshops, no plan whatsoever ('cause that would be
> > "authoritarian"), and plenty of hot air.
>
>I have a plan. I work with people who have plans. We accomplish shit,
>unlike you and your petit bourgeoise liberal friends.
>
>:-P
>
>Chuck