[lbo-talk] New Imperialism?

T Fast tfast at yorku.ca
Wed Mar 30 09:43:59 PST 2005



> Another point, the view that the North is rich because the South is poor
> is
> a bunch of crap not supported by any empirical evidence. However, it fits
> well the Calvinist guilt-ridden mind set that much of the left espouses.
>
> Wojtek
>
No the argument that the poverty of the south has nothing to do with the wealth of the North is the Protestant ethic extended to its global perfection. "We here in the North are so rich cause we work so damn hard."

No empirical evidence? The very countries we are sitting in once belonged to others--you may have heard of them. They would be included included in the definition of th south.

No empirical evidence? Must explain why Egyptians have to travel to London to see their own history. Or that global monetary flows just happen to flow through London, NewYork or Toronto. Nope nobodies getting rich off managing global savings there...spread around by lottery actually. Nope the IMF has nothing to do with ensuring the South pays even though it already paid in spades with slaves, and new world gold-just to name a few- from the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries. Hey you all should read Fogel et al's "Time on the Cross" they "prove" there was no exploitation involved in slavery

By the time this thread is done you all are gonna have it that the two Anglo-Saxon Empires that have dominated the globe for some time now are just big Victorian charity schemes.

Maybe I can get the white ladies riled by suggesting that there is no material benefit that accrues to males from patriarchy.

It is not about guilt it is about keeping the books straight.

In weeping solidarity.



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