[lbo-talk] Cities (was Paul Krugman..etc.)

Marvin Gandall marvgandall at rogers.com
Wed Mar 30 17:13:03 PST 2005


Andy F:


> --- Jim Westrich <westrich at nodimension.com> wrote:
>> Are we talking about metric or imperial people?
>>
>> Andy F was talking about cities proper. Marvin was
>> talking about metro
>> statistical areas which include surrounding areas.
>>
>> Jim
>
> Thank you.
-------------------- Sorry. I should have noticed Andy was citing core stats, rather than metro ones.

Not a big issue, but I don't know why these statistics are still used, frankly. Maybe someone can explain. It's utterly meaningless, IMO, to say Toronto only had some 600,000 people a few years ago, and was the second city behind Montreal, when in fact it is universally recognized as the country's largest and most important city, and has upwards of five million people - Maple Leaf and Raptors fans all - who identify themselves as Torontonians, even if the great majority live in suburbs called Scarborough, Etobicoke, or North York. Same in Ottawa, same in all of the other major centres, which now reflect this geographic reality at the political level, where amalgamation has ended or greatly reduced the civic autonomy of the suburbs in favour of a single entity embracing the entire metropolitan area. I expect this is the trend everywhere. Or do people down there refer to themselves as Yonkersians and Queensites and Staten Islanders rather than New Yorkers?

MG



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