So, you have never persuaded any ordinary working person of your rosy view of the future with this argument, right? and you don't know anyone else who has persuaded any such person with this argument, correct? But you think that doesn't matter because the workers are brainwashed by bourgeois ideology, yes?
Tell me, Charles, what use is this argument if it can
only be rationally believed from inside a society that
does not exist and does not work even rhetorically to
move anyone in our society? Why should I give your
fancy the time of day?
>
> Just a question, I want to know from Charles and
> any
> other Marxist or former Marxist -- have you ever
> persuaded an ordinary working person who has a
> question about how to get the mail delivered or some
> such under socialism that it will happen because
> human
> nature is good and we can be taught to be unselfish?
> In my 20 some years as a Marxist (so I thought) and
> 26
> as a socialist, that line never worked for me or
> anyone I knew. (Well, I only toyed with it briefly
> in
> my very early days as a red.)
>
> ^^^^^^
>
> CB: This is not a very telling whatever. The
> working person, like most
> people, would be inculcated with bourgeois world
> view, which includes
> individual selfish person as the model of humans.
> So, that they can't be
> convinced of this doesn't mean someone raised in a
> communist society
> wouldn't be convinced of it and even know how to
> carry it out. On the other
> hand , if they accept that we can be taught conceive
> of ourself interest as
> integrated with social interest, they would see it.
>
>
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