Lewis Higgins Chris Doss wrote:
> A better answer would have been that one can
> riticize Nazi Germany for stuff it actually did,
like > massacre Jews and invade countries, not for
fictions > such as its oppression of the leprechaun
population. > Attack the USSR all you want for
suppressing the
> Prague Spring, locking up dissidents and so forth.
> Accusing it of having pauperized the working class
is > the stuff of fantasy. Actually the working class
was > the most priviliged stratum of the population
outside > the elite.
Supporters of Nazi Germany could make many of the same claims: unemployment was virtually non-existent, subsidized health care, free passes, etc. In the regions of the former East Germany, many workers are nostalgic for the Nazi era, not the imposed system of the USSR. However, the choice is probably a national chauvinistic one rather than ideological, since they were both police states. And that, surely, is the issue.
-- Lew
^^^^^ CB: Well, this seems a fairly vicious anti-communist, anti-Soviet logical fallacy. Chris is presenting evidence of the economic and social success of the Soviet system for the working class. Just like promised. Usually, people try to claim that Soviet socialism didn't privilege the working class as promised.
You try to divert from that pro-Soviet claim, and suggest that this _success_ makes the SU like Nazi Germany, seeming to suggest that the crimes of Nazi Germany somehow go along with pro-working, programs.
Actually, this proposition is the very heart of bourgeois anti-Soviet, anti-communist mythology: Privileging the working class creates tyranny.