[lbo-talk] The War on the Car

Gar Lipow the.typo.boy at gmail.com
Mon Nov 14 19:19:29 PST 2005


On 11/14/05, W. Kiernan <wkiernan at ij.net> wrote:
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> Anyway, I have nothing against ultra-efficient cars which run off
> central power plants per se, but if you could talk a fraction the people
> who are inclined to buy an SUV to drive through cities and suburbs into
> buying a merely super-efficient ("super" < "ultra") 660cc hybrid, or
> even that 1500cc speed-demon gas-hog, you could see these things on the
> road next year. Whereas with pure battery cars like you're talking
> about, before you could get off the ground you'd need to build a
> regional network of charging stations comparable to our network of gas
> stations. Mass fueling of electric cars isn't even tested technology;
> surely it would take years to work out the bugs and safety hazards. And
> probably in the process you'd also have to rebuild half of the nation's
> electric grid.
>

I have nothing against ultra-efficient hybrids either. But electrics don't need a whole new infrastructure - not for autos with a 250 mile range. You would charge them at home, at night with off peak power (homeowners could put in plugs in their parking spaces; apartment owners would be required to do the same for tenants - one hell of a lot cheaper than the infrastructure for a hydrogen transition.) And electric cars are extremely zippy - great acceleration. Also don't forget plugin-hybrids. Take your muscle hyber-hybrid, and add a charger. Now you can travel the first 40 miles on the stored electricty (which is more than a lot of people travel in a day) and use fuel only for daily mileage exceeding that.

Mind you, a hell of a lot of auto travel is a matter of practicallity not auto love. Look at auto ownership rates in Manhattan - around 1/4th* or less the U.S. average**. Automobile ownership is less practical there than the U.S. average (parking + traffic) and mass transit better.

Provide really good mass transit nationwide - not merely manhattan level, but say better than Euro-travel (such as automated ultra-light rail) and a lot of people would gladly give up their cars. Because automobile love is so celebrated for commerical reasons, I think it is overlooked how many people in the U.S. drive who really don't like driving.

*Parsons Brinckerhoff Quade & Douglas; Cambridge Systematics, Inc.;NuStats International, RT-HIS Regional Travel -Household Interview Survey GENERAL FINAL REPORT. Feb 2000. New York Metropolitan Transportation Council (NYMTC); North Jersey Transportation Planning Authority (NJTPA), 24/Feb/2004 <http://www.nymtc.org/files/fr00321.pdf>.p83. Table 51

**Stacey C. Davis and Susan W. Diegel, TRANSPORTATION ENERGY DATA BOOK: - Edition 23, ORNL-697(Edition 23 of ORNL-5198). October 2003, Chapter 5: Heavy Vehicles and Characteristics, Page 8-6, Table 8.5: Demographic Statistics from the 1969, 1977, 1983, 1990, 1995 NPTS and 2001 NHTS. Oak Ridge National Laboratory for the U.S. Department of Energy Office of Planning, Budget Formulation and Analysis Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy, 24/Feb/2003 <http://www-cta.ornl.gov/data/tedb23/Full_Doc_TEDB23.pdf>. p8-6.



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