[lbo-talk] We can lose, or we can just lose later

Travis Fast tfast at yorku.ca
Sat Nov 26 16:54:28 PST 2005


Yah I get that and so does everyone else. I was trying to engineer a discursive shift away for the question of thanks no thanks.

Travis

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:


>> The point is Yoshie, you can either take the approach that the
>> average soldier is no more and no less responsible then the average
>> AMerican for the war and use this as the basis of trying to convince
>> them not to en-list or re-enlist or you can get on a moral high
>> horse, act holier than though and try to convince them not to enlist
>> /re-enlist by making them more responsible for the war than say
>> yourself. Which strategy do you think would be better?
>>
>> Travis
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> Whether the average soldier is more or less responsible than the
> average American for the war (or whether anyone has a moral high
> ground) isn't a point that concerns me. Those who have argued
> against Boddi are saying that we have no reason to thank US soldiers
> for fighting an illegal and immoral war like the Iraq War. (It would
> be a different story if the war in question were worth fighting.) The
> question of civilian gratitude for volunteer soldiers is a different
> one than the question of responsibility. In addition, I'm saying
> that soldiers have more power to change the US foreign policy than
> civilians. If they quit reenlisting in large numbers, for instance,
> that will motivate the power elite to withdraw from Iraq than any
> civilian protest at home, for the power elite depend on them. In
> this respect (the relative willingness to enlist or reenlist),
> gratitude or lack thereof may have a small impact on soldiers (fewer
> may enlist or reenlist if they believe that the war is unpopular in
> Iraq and America and therefore fighting it is a thankless job),
> though the largest impact must come from the war itself and their own
> families.
>
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