[lbo-talk] the underprivileged soldier?

[Travis Fast]

Yah but some crucial stats are missing.  Like what was the income of 
these recruits prior to joining the forces and what was there level of 
education after leaving. So the question is how many joined the army as 
a way of increasing their income and ability to get a higher education.  
Inference on income from postal codes is bugus in this sense.  We need 
tax returns and information on pre and post service levels of education 
and income.  Morover only if you define the working class as poor with a 
black tint and lack of a high school diploma does this study prove 
anything.  So sure in a country where everyone except the top 10% and 
bottom 10% are called middle class it is hardly suprising that you have 
a middle class army.  And it still shows the army is overall more tinted 
than it should be if only marginally.

TF

Doug Henwood wrote:


> [I'm not sure if I trust anything coming out of Heritage, but this 
> does comport with some other research I've seen.]
>
> <http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20051128/cm_usatoday/debunkingthemythoftheunderprivilegedsoldier;_ylt=AlWbZRYvkzY8hd7qSZNWg5us0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3YWFzYnA2BHNlYwM3NDI-> 
>
>
> Debunking the myth of the underprivileged soldier
> By Tim Kane and James Jay Carafano
> Mon Nov 28, 7:36 AM ET
>
> They all volunteered. The U.S. soldiers pitching in with hurricane 
> relief along the Gulf Coast and those fighting and dying in Iraq, 
> Afghanistan and elsewhere decided, on their own, to serve their nation.
>
> Or was the decision made so freely? Could it be that unscrupulous 
> Pentagon recruiters duped them, taking advantage of their poverty, 
> their lack of education and the bleak futures they share as members of 
> the USA's urban underclass?
>
> That's the view of some critics, such as New York Times columnist Bob 
> Herbert, who writes that "very few" of the soldiers fighting in Iraq 
> "are coming from the privileged economic classes," and that there 
> would likely be no war if rich kids had to fight. According to Rep. 
> Charles Rangel (news, bio, voting record), D-N.Y., social equality 
> demands reinstatement of the draft, which he justifies by asserting 
> that "the most privileged Americans are underrepresented or absent." 
> Herbert concludes that there is "something very, very wrong with this 
> picture."
>
> What's "very, very wrong" with the Rangel-Herbert picture is that it 
> has no factual basis.
>
> According to a comprehensive study of all enlistees for the years 
> 1998-99 and 2003 that The Heritage Foundation just released, the 
> typical recruit in the all-volunteer force is wealthier, more educated 
> and more rural than the average 18- to 24-year-old citizen is. Indeed, 
> for every two recruits coming from the poorest neighborhoods, there 
> are three recruits coming from the richest neighborhoods.
>
> Yes, rural areas and the South produced more soldiers than their 
> percentage of the population would suggest in 2003. Indeed, four rural 
> states - Montana, Alaska, Wyoming and Maine - rank 1-2-3-4 in 
> proportion of their 18-24 populations enlisted in the military. But 
> this isn't news.
>
> Enlistees have always come from rural areas. Yet a new study, reported 
> in The Washington Post earlier this month, suggests that higher 
> enlistment rates in rural counties are new, implying a poorer 
> military. They err by drawing conclusions from a non-random sample of 
> a few counties, a statistically cloaked anecdote. The only accurate 
> way to assess military demographics is to consider all recruits.
>
> If, for example, we consider the education of every recruit, 98% 
> joined with high-school diplomas or better. By comparison, 75% of the 
> general population meets that standard. Among all three-digit ZIP code 
> areas in the USA in 2003 (one can study larger areas by isolating just 
> the first three digits of ZIP codes), not one had a higher graduation 
> rate among civilians than among its recruits.
>
> In fact, since the 9/11 attacks, more volunteers have emerged from the 
> middle and upper classes and fewer from the lowest-income groups. In 
> 1999, both the highest fifth of the nation in income and the lowest 
> fifth were slightly underrepresented among military volunteers. Since 
> 2001, enlistments have increased in the top two-fifths of income 
> levels but have decreased among the lowest fifth.
>
> Allegations that recruiters are disproportionately targeting blacks 
> also don't hold water. First, whites make up 77.4% of the nation's 
> population and 75.8% of its military volunteers, according to our 
> analysis of Department of Defense data.
>
> Second, we explored the 100 three-digit ZIP code areas with the 
> highest concentration of blacks, which range from 24.1% black up to 
> 68.6%. These areas, which account for 14.6% of the adult population, 
> produced 16.6% of recruits in 1999 and only 14.1% in 2003.
>
> Maintaining the strength and size of our all-volunteer military isn't 
> always easy. But Americans step up when their country needs them. To 
> suggest the system is failing or exploiting citizens is wrong. And to 
> make claims about the nature of U.S. troops to discredit their mission 
> ought to be politically out of bounds.
>
> ---
>
> Tim Kane is an Air Force veteran, and James Jay Carafano is an Army 
> veteran. Both are research fellows at The Heritage Foundation.
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