[lbo-talk] Fw: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Judge declares Pledge unconstitutional

andie nachgeborenen andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com
Thu Sep 15 06:36:05 PDT 2005


Agreed, whether legally right or wrong, this is not the fight we need to be fighting now. And I think it's probably legally wrong. The Pledge is not a prayer. And there's precedent going back to the 40s that you don't have to say it at all. But mostly it's politically wrong. Worse, it is from an SF judge. jks

--- Michael Perelman <michael at ecst.csuchico.edu> wrote:


>
> Terrible news. Just the same reaction I felt when
> gay marriage came into the
> headlines, but this is even worse. The gay marriage
> ban created serious hardships
> for many people. I am no fan of religion, but when
> I was in school no one really
> took the pledge seriously.
>
> I believe that some people have come a long way in
> understanding gay marriage, but
> the long run success would have been faster if the
> GLB movement had done more to make
> alliances with unions, Black churches, and others.
> Probably better
> previous communication about hate crimes would have
> made the case for gay marriage
> more understandable for people.
>
> Carroll is correct about insisting on better,
> broader organization efforts, although
> not many of us are very good at that sort of thing.
>
> Symbolic politics is a dead end.
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 12:36:27PM -0700, Leigh
> Meyers wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Sacbee News Bulletin
> > To: leighm
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:36 AM
> > Subject: BREAKING NEWS ALERT for leighm: Judge
> declares Pledge unconstitutional
> >
> >
> > SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - The Pledge of Allegiance was
> ruled unconstitutional Wednesday by a federal judge
> who granted legal standing to two families
> represented by an atheist whose previous attempt to
> get the pledge out of public schools was rejected by
> the U.S. Supreme Court.
> >
>
http://www.sacbee.com/24hour/nation/story/2719218p-11282339c.html
> >
> >
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