Costs of big marches- Re: [lbo-talk] DC

ravi listmail at kreise.org
Sun Sep 25 17:06:24 PDT 2005


On 25/09/2005 12:32 PM, Nathan Newman wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "ravi" <listmail at kreise.org>
> -also, if the million people expected at that march, say 25% with
> cable -subscription, decided to go without cable for 1 year, thats
> $50-$100 -million. if they decided to not march, that's another say
> $40 million. -if they make other trivial sacrifices, such as internet
> connections, -there's probably more money there. maybe another $50
> million?
>
> Except the antiwar movement didn't encourage activists to buy a cable
> subscription.
>

i still don't get it. i didn't go to the rally because the antiwar movement encouraged me!! and i dont think i am an anomaly. wth, i am the anti-war movement!


>
> Was that the best use of $12 million?
>

the right-wing wins because of the needless division within the left. are these criticisms the best use of your energy? even if you have a beef against ANSWER, i would be better educated if you outlined your case against them (which you have done to some extent, though references to n.korea are a bit tenuous as seen in your own finessing of the farrakhan factor).


> For the same money, you could just about fund the salaries for one
> year of a community organizer in every single Congressional district,
> who could spend their time organizing local activists to do outreach,
> local demos or help build support for primary campaigns against
> incumbents-- whatever was needed to put pressure on Congress.
>
> So $12 million spent on one day versus a year of local organizing in
> every Congressional district.
>
> Seems like a no-brainer to me.
>

as doug pointed out, this should not be a zero-sum game. and as carrol responded to me on an earlier thread, why should the people listen to one faction? the people you call the "antiwar movement" -- ANSWER and UFPJ -- got the attention of the rest of us. i am sure many of them are as committed activists as you and chuck0, and they didnt get our attention because of foxnews promoting them. send us the details of your marches and activities. we may support them too!

judging by the crowd, the chants, the signs, this wasnt just the 'antiwar movement'. personally, i don't even buy (yet) into the logic of "withdraw now" (i still fail to see how letting the US off so easy, for what we have done to iraq, is a left cause). but i marched because i feel solidarity with the group.

--ravi



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