So you get the creeps when somebody exhalts in the punishment Lyndie English will receive? Do you also quiver 'n shake when civil rights leaders join Mickey Schwerner's widow in saying hard time for the septogenarian killer racist of her husband is long overdue? If not, why not? That Mississippi fucker was just a pawn in their game, too?
Of course she deserves punishment. And if there is justice in the world, it wouldn't be the US army trying her; it would be a world court if not a court of Iraqi victims. The fact that the army is using her and Graner as scapegoats to cover up systematic brutality and the logical outcome of an imperial adventure doesn't excuse her, or require you to think warm and fuzzy thoughts about a poor, abused, working class victim. There were plenty of poor, abused working class victims in Hitler's army, or in Lt. Calley's command. When you can't reach them, or when they can't be persuaded to turn the guns around, they become fair targets. Turn your guns around, Doug. You're not raising consciousness about imperialism by apologizing for the unspeakable.
Mike Hirsch
-----Original Message----- From: Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> Sent: Sep 28, 2005 2:54 PM To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Lyndie England
Leigh Meyers wrote:
>It's all true, and Lyndie England is STILL responsible for her actions.
In a legal sense, yes. But it gives me the creeps how quick you are to denounce her with enthusiasm. She was produced by a particular set of gender and class relations and then twisted by the military. You sound like some hyperindividualist right-winger - which is not unrelated to hippiedom, is it?
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________________________________________ `And these words shall then become Like oppression's thundered doom Ringing through each heart and brain, Heard again -- again -- again-- `Rise like Lions after slumber In unvanquishable number-- Shake your chains to earth like dew Which in sleep had fallen on you-- Ye are many -- they are few.' --------Shelley, "The Mask of Anarchy: Written on the Occasion of the Massacre at Manchester" [1819]