<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> it'd certainly have to be tried in baby steps.  i remember when i moved to colorado (boulder) after growing up in chicagoland and being utterly amazed that people would stop for me as i crossed mid block.  i even laughed uncontrolably as i showed some friends visiting from the flatlands how cars would simply stop and let us pass.  the same goes for SF where i'm at these days and i'll guess many parts of the west coast.  i certainly didn't have this experience when i returned to the midwest or went to NYC for a visit.<br> <br> al<br> <br> Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: <blockquote cite="mid011801c50a37$c57bc870$9e66dc80@WSokolows" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Alex quoted: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Published Sunday, January 16, 2005, in the Toronto Star "Naked streets": Sounds crazy but might just work Entire towns in Europe have no traffic lights or signs, and they've never been safer </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> That may work in Europe, but I doubt it would work here. In Netherlands, Belgium or Germany, a pedestrian can walk on the road confident that the traffic would stop. Here, you cannot be sure even if you cross at a green light. People are too much sold to the idea of me-individualism here. Wojtek ___________________________________ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk">http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk</a> </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>