<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1"> <title></title> </head> <body> Andy F wrote: <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid20050614124336.45253.qmail@web30901.mail.mud.yahoo.com"> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> Is this what you meant by religious tendencies in science? I could see that. </pre> </blockquote> </blockquote> Yes. <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid20050614124336.45253.qmail@web30901.mail.mud.yahoo.com"> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> I had some trouble getting past the "physicists are arrogant" remark a while back. That's a cliche too, but a tiresome one.</pre> </blockquote> </blockquote> I said that? <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid20050614124336.45253.qmail@web30901.mail.mud.yahoo.com"> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> And the whole notion of trauma turning people away from religion: Please just stop with that. Just stop. Not even the ex-Catholics among us have all been smacked by nuns. I was happily hanging out with the parish youth group long after I decided the whole guy-in-the-sky and all its variations made no sense to me.</pre> </blockquote> </blockquote> You're taking trauma to be a bigger word than I intended. I once went to a born again baptist service that was so awful/ugly that I swore off entering a church in the U.S. ever again. <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid20050614124336.45253.qmail@web30901.mail.mud.yahoo.com"> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Once a woman (semi-practising Jewish) suggested that my atheism was a form of rebellion against a father figure. Unfortunately it was only later that it occured to me that she was confusing me with a Satanist.</pre> </blockquote> </blockquote> I suspect most believers would describe my position as atheist too. Joanna </body> </html>