I saw "Bat Man Begins" last night. It's officially against vigilantism (which is embodied in the Bad Guys). BM never kills anyone. He works with the honest part of the legal system (the soon-to-be commissioner Jim Gordon, the ADA Rachel Dawes). It doesn't seem to be any more pro-vigilantism than "Spiderman." -- Jim Devine "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.