<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1"> <title></title> </head> <body> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Carrol, missing the point, writes: " it was obviously neither random nor senseless" </pre> <pre wrap="">to the victims? like, in some way that could have been used to protect themselves from the carnage?</pre> </blockquote> well, if we can define "sensible" violence from the standpoint of victims, maybe we can resolve this? like, um, hiroshima, say, where the victims clearly could, or should have known, as they were burning to death, that this was a "sensible" way to avoid invasion...etc. fs </body> </html>