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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I agree with Dennis Perrin's approach ("This has to
be <BR>faced -- many of these bombers want us dead as well. They are not
<BR>progressive.")</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But I think his assessment, below is unduly
pessimistic:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"deep anti-Western sentiment among young Arab
Muslims that, in the many cases I've seen and read about, goes against what most
(if not all) people on this list subscribe to -- secular culture. The right to
be obscene. Drugs. Booze. Porn. The lot."</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My recollection of some Pew research not so long
ago was that Arab muslims were generally in admiration of many aspects of
western society, of its technology and consumer goods and even of its
liberalism and democracy, but were profoundly critical of its foreign policy
especially its pro-Israel stance and its bullying imperialism.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There are of course some 'anti-Western' cultural
conservatives who frame their anti-modernism in Islamic terms, but these are
mostly isolated, and would have no influence at all but for the disruption to
civil society that US-UK foreign policy has.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But it is surely worth noting that the ideology of
the Islamists is just as much imitated from the west as is the pro-consumerist,
pro-technology thinking. In fact it is a mish-mash of conservative and
anti-consumerist ideas that are commonplace in the West.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Understanding their motivation is the easy
part. How to deal <BR>with and curtail the wider madness unleashed and stoked by
the US, of which <BR>these bombings are a part, is much
tougher.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>