<div> </div> <div>Yoshie,</div> <div> </div> <div>Again, GAY. </div> <div> </div> <div>boddi<br><br> </div> <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/16/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Yoshie Furuhashi</b> <<a href="mailto:furuhashi.1@osu.edu">furuhashi.1@osu.edu</a>> wrote:</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">boddi satva lbo.boddi at <a href="http://gmail.com">gmail.com</a>, Wed Nov 16 13:18:14 PST 2005:<br><br>> Therefore, we don't objectify our bodies in the same way that women <br>> do because we ourselves are not objectified (and if we are, we<br>> don't really care).<br><br>That wasn't always so in history -- obviously in many pre-modern<br>societies (ancient Athens and Edo are the most well known examples, <br>but there are many others, too <<a href="http://www.androphile.org/preview/">http://www.androphile.org/preview/</a><br>Museum/museum.htm/>), younger men knew they were being objectified<br>and desired by older men. <br><br>A few of the photos left in MR Frappr<br>at <<a href="http://www.frappr.com/mr">http://www.frappr.com/mr</a>> appear to be left by men who have<br>thought of their bodies as objects of desire.  The question is, are <br>they for me or Yates?  :-><br><br>Yoshie Furuhashi<br><<a href="http://montages.blogspot.com">http://montages.blogspot.com</a>><br><<a href="http://monthlyreview.org">http://monthlyreview.org</a>><br>< <a href="http://mrzine.org">http://mrzine.org</a>><br><br><br>___________________________________<br><a href="http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk">http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk </a><br></blockquote></div><br>