<br><br> <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/4/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Yoshie Furuhashi</b> <<a href="mailto:furuhashi.1@osu.edu">furuhashi.1@osu.edu</a>> wrote:</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">> [lbo-talk] Disgusting aspects of religious practice....Mike Ballard<br>> swillsqueal at <a href="http://yahoo.com.au"> yahoo.com.au</a>  Sat Dec 3 03:27:53 PST 2005<br><snip><br>> In Germany, Muslims grow apart<br>> By Peter Schneider The New York Times<br>> FRIDAY, DECEMBER 2, 2005<br><snip><br>> Before the murder of [Hatun] Surucu, there were enough warnings to <br>> engage the Germans in a debate about the parallel society growing<br>> in their midst. There have been 49 known "honor crimes," most<br>> involving female victims, during the past nine years, including 16 <br>> in Berlin alone.<br><br><br>"49 known 'honor crimes," most involving female victims, during the<br>past nine years."  How does this statistic compare with the incidence<br>of domestic violence that results in murders committed by non-Muslim <br>German men?<br><br><br>> I am normally against the death penality but these honor killings<br>> really get under my skin. They should round up their entire<br>> families and shoot them (since it is the family which orders the <br>> murder to begin with) or at the very least the head male of the<br>> clan (and deport the rest).<br>><br>> Jim Davis<br>> Ozark Bioregion, USA<br><br><br>You mean including women and children in the "clan"?  How does that <br>help them?<br><br>Yoshie Furuhashi<br><<a href="http://montages.blogspot.com">http://montages.blogspot.com</a>><br><<a href="http://monthlyreview.org">http://monthlyreview.org</a>><br><<a href="http://mrzine.org"> http://mrzine.org</a>><br><br><br>___________________________________<br><a href="http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk">http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk</a></blockquote> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div> </div><br> <div> </div> <div> </div><br> <div> </div> <div>If you are out in the sticks enough, this is as American as apple pie.</div></div> <div> </div> <div>I come from Mississippi, raised to a large degree from my great-grandmother who told me tales of the good ole days.  She was openly nostalgic for the Klan because if you were a really noxious wife-beater/child beater they would stop by your place and horse-whip you. </div> <div> </div> <div>There is another feature of the old south that exists to this day:  You catch your wife or your daughter fucking around in the house and kill them and it's going off the books.  That's your family and in podunk towns throughout this country that's the way it goes down, the cops know their place.  That hasn't changed one bit. They died in an accident or something and no one is going to mess with you about it. </div> <div> </div> <div>It's identical to what goes down in tribal nowhereland inhabited by Muslims (and not given the same breathless reporting Hindus, Sihks, or the aforementioned Christians). </div> <div> </div> <div> </div>