> We're not exactly at zero. Back in the pre and immediate post-invasion
> months there was a US government orchestrated media debate about the
> uses of torture. As it turned out torture had already become a secret
> but routine policy. It is still denied even though we know various
> executive branch internal memos have authorized its use.
Let's not forget that they are also denying that the invasion of Iraq was a foregone conclusion months before the event. Would anybody care to argue otherwise?
-- Andy