[lbo-talk] 30 April 1975 (Re: "Save Darfur" etc)

[Jim Devine]

it seems to me that (1) the US lost the war because US troops were
kicked out of VN and US imperial schemes were stifled temporarily in
that area; but (2) Vietnam lost because of the continued sanctions and
the like that were applied against them by the US (along with the
various problems leftover from the war). Nobody "triumphed," though
you might say that on balance, the Vietnamese won.

On 4/30/06, Dennis Redmond <dredmond at efn.org> wrote:
> Yoshie wrote:
>
> > On 30 April 1975, the Vietnamese Communists finally triumphed.
>
> Well, two points. First, I'd argue the *Vietnamese Revolution* triumphed.
> The VCP was just one of the superstructural features of a much broader
> social process. Second, revolutions don't stop when the guns cease firing.
> In some ways, the post-1985 period has witnessed a second revolution for
> Vietnam -- the construction of an East Asian-style developmental state.
>
> -- DRR
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