[lbo-talk] mothers for war

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Worse than useless, this overwhelming military power. 
As Chomsky has insisted over the years, this strategy
is a suicide pact. If there is not real peace based on
hostile but polite respect for everyone's sovereignty
with Israel entirely inside the Green Line, it's only
a matter of time till someone on the other side brews
up something really nasty, chemical, biological, or
nuclear, that will real annihilate Israel or enough of
it so that it makes no difference, to which Israel
will respond with the Samson option, blowing up the
Arabs and Iranians with its nuclear weapons in its
dying spasm.  By that time the Iranians should have
the bomb, which the Pakistanis already do, and they
might take it ill to see their fellow Muslims
incinerated en masse.  You don't have to be a genius
to see where this is going. Any other alternative to
real peace does not exist.  If the Israelis choose to
continue the path of war, this catastrophe will happen
within our lifetimes, it is quite manifest. Maybe even
my lifetime. I have no particular hope that the
Israelis will do anything else. If they are determined
to commit suicide and the US will not make them behave
by cutting their aid (fat chance), what forces tend
the other way?

--- Dwayne Monroe <idoru345 at yahoo.com> wrote:


> Doug posted:
> 
> 
> Wall Street Journal - August 1, 2006
> 
> In Israel, 'Mothers' Have Change of Heart On
> Hezbollah
> Fight
> 
> Ex-Leader's Bellicose Stand Signals Shift in Nation;
> Ms. Anteby Skips March
> 
> By GUY CHAZAN
> 
> 
> <snip>
> 
> 
> Seven years later, Ms. Anteby finds herself living
> through a new Lebanon war. But she backs this one to
> the hilt. "This time we're fighting for our
> survival,"
> she says in her home here, a village overlooking the
> Sea of Galilee. Any Israeli who opposes the military
> campaign is just a "bleeding heart," she says. Ms.
> Anteby's transformation from peacenik to hawk shows
> how Israeli attitudes are hardening as the country's
> war on Hezbollah enters its third week, with no sign
> of the decisive victory its army promised.
> 
> [...]
> 
> 
> .........................
> 
> 
> This is unsurprising.
> 
> 
> 
> Now, the question is, how can such people - and no
> doubt, there are many - be reached?  That is, how
> can
> they be convinced to support a negotiated peace
> instead of this dream of victory via totalen krieg
> that so enchants them?
> 
> 
> Moralizing appeals are useless.  You can show image
> after image of bombed buildings and twisted corpses
> with little or no impact.  The response is well
> rehearsed: "this is war!", "too bad, but it's the
> enemy's fault", "they shouldn't put their rockets
> close to homes" and so on.
> 
> 
> No, moral lectures are almost completely
> ineffective. 
> What must be found, I think, is an argument based
> upon
> self-interest.   
> 
> In time, regardless of whatever gains the IDF makes
> on
> the ground, missile attacks will resume, violence
> will
> continue.  There is no military solution to the
> problem - indeed, your dependence upon force creates
> a
> feedback loop of endless action and counter-action.
> 
> 
> Again and again we're told about the skill and
> tenacity of the IDF.  In the end, who cares?  Your
> perfect military hasn't fought a real war against an
> equally equipped enemy in many years.  You've
> over-matched all of your adversaries.  Despite this
> considerable power, you're still burdened with
> worry. 
> F-16s, Apaches, UAVs, Mossad super agents - useless,
> useless, useless.  
> 
> 
> Painfully honest negotiation is the only way
> forward.
> 
> 
> But of course, even if Tel Aviv were to reach this
> conclusion there'd be the problem of Washington
> which
> would surely be loathe to lose its ME legions. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> .d.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The most important isotope of plutonium is 239Pu,
> with a half-life of 24,110 years.
> 
> ......................
> http://monroelab.net/blog/
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