[lbo-talk] Re: Radicalism of Morons

Michael Givel mgivel at earthlink.net
Thu Aug 24 08:50:09 PDT 2006


So now Mr./Ms. Leninology (we are not privy to which or whom they really are, why might that be?) thinks that anti-Semitism is "nebulous" due to some "nutters about" and the "constant stream of New Anti-Semitism" articles, and this apparently dismissing hate against Jews on the left or right as so much drivel. Mr./Ms. Leninology also asks why not talk about hate against Muslims as well?

Yep, time to move on folks as anti-Semitism is now officially just propaganda or basically gone--particularly on the left and on the far right, which I have noticed Mr./Ms. Leninology can't bring themselves to vigorously denounce or campaign against (remember the BNP exchange).

By the way, speaking of moral inequivalencies, whoever you are, I think you left out a few groups beyond Muslims such as the Roma, African-Americans, Catholics, Protestants, Sikhs, Buddhist adherents, GLBT people, women, Hindis, and the list goes on.

What gives?

[lbo-talk] Radicalism of Morons www.leninology. blogspot.com leninology at hotmail.com Thu Aug 24 07:48:15 PDT 2006

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Michael Givel wrote:> Streaks of raw Jew-hatred re-enter public discourse> > By JOHANN HARI> GUEST COLUMNISTThis is a truly awful article by Hari. Hari's proof of a resurgent antisemitism appears to consist of the following: a) an experience with the notorious far right front the IHR; b) an experience with his hairdresser; c) an obviously embellished account of the Edinburgh festival from Jamie Glassman and d) quite predictably, a mention of Gilad Atzmon (whose approach has changed somewhat, although one wouldn't expect Hari to be interested).his salutary reminder that Jews are not exempt from racist attacks and harrassment, and that they have to be on the lookout for "suicide packs" because "Remember: 38 percent of British Muslims believe British Jews are 'a legitimate target'". This devious racist slur was not wholly manufactured by Hari, since the loaded poll originally appeared in The Times. That said, even The Times did not invent the bit about "suicide packs": this much was entirely invented by Hari. The poll didn't specify what they should be targets for - badgering, pressure, propaganda, collaboration, violence... Hari simply infers that since we're talking about Muslims it must be suicide attacks. Perhaps before instructing others about a nebulous 'resurgence' of anti-Jewish racism, he should deal with his Muslim problem. Perhaps he should also think twice about describing Jews as a "tribe".In an amazing stroke of ingenuity, Hari cites his lack of surprise at antisemitic arguments as proof that they are becoming mainstream. He is even surprised at his lack of surprise - but then ignorance is the mother of amazement. One would not be surprised at hearing someone utter antisemitic arguments since a) there have to be some nutters about, and b) the constant stream of New Antisemitism articles reinforces the expectation that one will encounter them.Hari's article is mindless drivel. _________________________________________________________________



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