On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:25:02 -0800 (PST) andie nachgeborenen
<andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com> writes:
>
> At least one thread in this discussion has been to
> slam Castro's homophobic repression. Brian D and I
> were in that. Jerry's opposition was certainly not
> from a Yay Cyba pov, as much as, don't you have
> somthing closer at home betterf to yap about? Do you
> call that fawning just because we said he did good
> things too and was probably preferable (as are his
> chosen successors) to his likely US-selected
> replacements, given that you yourself admit that the
> anarchist utopia is not in Cuba's immediate future?
The International Socialists' article on Emma Goldman might have some relavance to the discussion of issues in this thread. See: http://www.isreview.org/issues/34/emmagoldman.shtml
Jim F.
>
> --- Tayssir John Gabbour <tayssir.john at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On 12/29/06, Chuck <chuck at mutualaid.org> wrote:
> > > It would be unusual if a fawning discussion of
> > Castro on
> > > this list went uncriticized by any of the
> > anarchists or
> > > anti-authoritarians here.
> >
> > Then you can understand that if someone's
> > complaining that a comment
> > represents "the sort of thing that gives anarchism a
> > bad name among
> > progressives," someone will attempt to clarify it if
> > it was
> > misleading. And expand on the inherent repression in
> > maintaining a
> > nation-state, which isn't that much of a mental
> > stretch given that
> > most of us can see that corporations are
> > psychopaths. (As expert
> > Robert Hare points out.)
> >
> > Of course, someone could also say that Edward
> > Bernays gave
> > progressives a bad name among decent people. So
> > progressives should
> > offer much leeway to anarchism -- especially since
> > it's such an
> > interesting part of their intellectual heritage.
> >
> >
> > Columbia prof Charles Tilly expanded on the banality
> > of state repression:
> > "It protection rackets represent organised crime at
> > its smoothest,
> > then war risking and state making – quintessential
> > protection rackets
> > with the advantage of legitimacy – qualify as our
> > largest examples of
> > organised crime."
> >
>
<https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/rohloff/www/war%20making%20and%20state%20makin
g.pdf>
> >
> >
> > Tayssir
> >
> > --
> > "Anarchism and the Academy" podcasts:
> >
>
<http://mbanna.radio4all.net/pub/archive5/mp3_4/200108-renew-acad-p.mp3>
> >
>
<http://mbanna.radio4all.net/pub/archive5/mp3_4/200108-renew-acad-q.mp3>
> >
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