[lbo-talk] OK, Nathan

andie nachgeborenen andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 1 12:51:21 PST 2006


It's more complex than that. After Prohibition ended, the mob had to get into new business. They had some experience with labor unions anyway -- indeed, in Chicago the Outfit played both ens against the middle in the 1920s, protecting dry cleaning workers and milk delivery workers (among others) from violence from the bosses while either protecting the bosses from labor troubles by corrupting the union officials or (in the case of the dry cleaning business) taking over the industry. Bosses and union officials who wouldn't play ended up in the Lake. The mob expanded in Hollywood in the 1930s, becoming big in the Stagehands and other supporting craft unions, and had a foothold in the Teamsters even before Hoffa because of the role of drivers in Prohibition. Likewise the Longshoremen (also involved in bootlegging), especially on the East Coast -- the Reds ran the West Coast Longshoremen. The mob was never big in auto, rubber, or steel, the problem there was business unionism, especially after they kicked the Commies out. The NY mob's hold on the garment industry was initially through Jewish rather than Italian hoods. The construction trades were mainly a post-Prohibition entrepreneurial effort by the mob. The post-Lewis mineworkers were viciously corrupt all on their own until the 1970s.

However, the big expansion into the unions actually coincides with the end of Prohibition and the New Deal with its commitment to helping organized labor. Unions were, along with wire services and gambling, the mob's replacement for bootleg liquor -- even at a time, especially at a time, when the unions had govt backing.

There's a lot less mob influence now, some unions, notoriously the Laborers, excepted. However union corruption, featherbedding, business unionism, nepotism, etc. remain big problems.

--- Michael Hoover <hooverm at scc-fl.edu> wrote:


> >>> dhenwood at panix.com 02/01/06 1:24 PM >>>
> American unions have a long relationship with
> organized crime
> Doug
> <<<<<>>>>>
>
> may not matter much after so many decades, but
> origins
> of above were in company and state
> repression/violence,
> under such circumstances, unions couldn't very well
> turn
> to government for help, perhaps they should have
> called
> ghostbusters, in any event, 'mob' organizations were
>
> protection agencies, in effect, hiring themselves
> out (in
> fact, some had previously "been on" the corporate
> side of
> the class struggle)... mh
>
>
>
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